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Why Protecting Nature Starts With Protecting People, with Brett Jenks

May 20, 2026

Matt Matern from "A Climate Podcast" speaks with Brett Jenks, on why climate adaptation has been underfunded for decades, why Bill Gates got it wrong in his recent climate memo, and why the real cost of inaction is a coming wave of climate migration that will dwarf anything we’ve seen. Brett also breaks down the three pillars of resilience Rare focuses on – financial, ecological, and social – and explains why helping a fisher get a bank account or a micro-insurance policy is as much a conservation tool as protecting the reef.

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